Mentor Interview
Sydney Lorton: “So first off, would you be able to just state your name, your position, and how long you’ve worked at the company or if you founded it.”
Reis Paluso: “Yep, name’s Reis Paluso, co-founder of Social Supply, we’re going on five years old in August so… just co-founder with Brett.”
S: “What should I know about you while having you as a co-worker and boss?”
R: “Well, I have kind of run from the lowest kind of entry level up to where I am now so my experience spans from everything from you know, community management through account management, graphic design, strategy, organization, team building, all that stuff, so I would say I kinda have pretty well rounded knowledge and skill set around marketing social media and I mean, business but I wouldn't -- I’m learning on the fly so… and I think I have just kind of like the full all around knowledge just cause I started at the bottom and done it all, worked my way up. I’m also pretty organized so really big on workflow and productivity and that’s probably it.”
S: “Awesome… also what did you major in college and how did that translate into what you do now?”
R: “My major in college was global studies major with a focus on Latin America. It was nothing that I really can directly correlate to marketing. It was interdisciplinary major, so I could take classes kind of across the board, there was only four global studies courses, which were all required, and then the rest was either taking psychology or I took film classes, I mean just all sorts of stuff so… I don’t know how exactly it directly correlated to my career path cause I’ve ended up going into marketing in a more creative space. So, just mind of getting like a global picture, more looking at like globalization and how the interconnectedness between people -- and I guess now it’s where we’re even more globalized because of the internet and the phones and the social media, its like instant connection. It wasn’t -- I didn’t study marketing or anything…”
S: “That’s kind of cool though. Like you just went into it and you’re like I don’t really…”
R: “I was actually a computer science major and I took two semesters of computer science -- or we ran the quarters so two quarters of computer science and calculus and I was like, it was so gnarly, I can’t even handle it. So then I was gonna be a film major and the film department at my school was very much the theory based, and so I’m like more hands on, I wanted to go film and director and whatever, and so I basically had all these classes from all these different places that kind of fell into allowing me to do this global studies thing, so it was kind of like an indirect, unplanned path.”
S: “Ya, that’s super cool. So what are your main duties and responsibilities in your job right now?”
R: “Right now is like client strategy, marketing strategy for clients, managing the team, a lot of admin work for the business, and I do -- I kind of fill in wherever, you know, caption and copy-writing, graphic design, photography, I kinda just play in all areas. It’s one of the things I’m working out and honing in even more, but ya that's kind of where I'm at now.”
S: “Nice. So why did you choose to found your own business or co-found it? Like what made you make that step cause that’s scary.”
R: “Ya, ya, I never -- honestly never intended to own my own business or be an entrepreneur at all. I actually recall many times saying that I would never want to own my own business and now I have like two and a half, but I was doing social media for about four to five different brands just as freelance, and I had met Brett while working for one of them at reef and then he went to Stance, he brought me with him, I was doing freelance for Stance and we just kinda saw an opportunity, a gap in the market, of like hey people need this service of just basic social media cause the knowledge just wasn’t there. It was kind of starting to filter in, more digital focused, but still not really even, and so we just oh hey let's partner up and we can utilize our networks and do this and really it just happened like so organically. You know Brett was working at Stance still for a while because he had a visa thing for being Australian and then -- so I was kind of running more of the day to day and he was kind of helping bring in clients and helping with strategy and stuff and then just I don't know, it was a really organic process, it wasn't like hey okay I’m gonna go and do this, just like hey here's an opportunity, we should do this together. And his skill set really matched up with mine and so it was just like cool, and you know it’s just been -- it’s crazy like the growth and just super organic, you know we don’t do any marketing for our own business. It’s all been word of mouth which is awesome. I mean that’s the best kind of business to get. So ya, I mean we started out it was just me, and then we hired one girl who was actually an intern at Stance, and we were working out of my garage, and then hired another guy, and we were working out of my garage, and then we eventually got a little office in Cardiff, we were there for a couple years, and then we moved here a couple -- a little over a year ago.”
S: “That’s awesome. So, did you ever have previous jobs before owning your own business that led you towards this or helped develop skills?”
R: “Ya definitely. So I basically taught myself how to write HTML CSS code, a little bit of Javascript, and was doing web development, like freelance -- well more or less freelance -- but not, I worked at a place everyday in Solana Beach, and I was just building websites for some cool brands and people and stuff, and alongside that I was running a surf blog called Corduroy TV, it was like -- it was all do it yourself surfing. So we made videos on how to make your own surf wax, how to fix your board, how to repair your wet suit, like all than sort of stuff, and then we had a blog as well, so I ran the blog for about a little over five years and so that was like a total -- that was like the testing ground for everything I do now. You know, I ran all the social media, but it was right when Facebook was really just getting going and Instagram was barely even a thing, more towards the end of when I was doing it, Instagram came on. So it was just the testing ground. I really just got to -- like I didn’t really have my boss but it was my partner, he was a creative he didn't really know about it, we just kind of were like doing what worked, and it was cool cause it was like when organic reach was really high on Facebook, so you know you post something on Facebook and everyone in your audience would see it so it was like -- we built this really awesome community, we won a bunch of awards and stuff, and that was launching point, and then from there, I have met a couple people who were looking for social media help -- couple brands like Leatherman, the multi tool company through Corduroy, and Brett hired me at Reef through Corduroy, Sirus -- my partner, he's a pro surfer so he surfed for Reef so he knew they were looking for someone, so it just kind of started the process of getting my own clients and then that's obviously where I met Brett and kind of started this from there so… But I've always just been like a total tech nerd and I'm kind one of those people where throw the directions away and figure it out yourself kind of thing. I taught myself Photoshop, taught myself how to write code, taught myself how to edit video, so just that’s just the nature of who I am: start doing it, figure it out.”
S: “Ya for sure. Well, and going off of that do you consider your job and a career in this area satisfying? I mean it sounds like you do, but then can you just explain why too?”
R: “Ya, I mean I think the beauty of like what we do as an agency is that we’re working with a number of brands so it’s not like a single focus, you’re working on one thing all the time which can kind of get, you know, monotonous. It’s like we're coming back and forth and really having to learn these different brands from like business wise to the personality of the brand to obviously then the personalities within the company were working directly with, so it’s cool to have obviously that human interaction amidst the online communication. For me personally, it's like a little bit of a double edged sword too cause I feel like obviously we have all these problems with technology and I have two kids, hey love the iPad and it's like how do you draw that boundary and I feel like a lot of times maybe were contributing to the problem a little bit. It's become obviously a necessary evil for a company to be on social media for marketing and -- so you know it’s like really the work home balance. Work, it’s obviously -- I'm on the phone and doing that stuff a lot on the computer and then when I go home, just being really disciplined to put it down and not tap in, but obviously it hard when you run your own business, you're kind of like constantly on the horn, but I mean it's definitely satisfying, it's awesome to have an awesome crew of people that are passionate about it as well and get to come in and share knowledge and you know try to have -- obviously have a good time and chat and be humans together.”
S: “It’s pretty cool how chill the workplace is too. I thought I was gonna come into it and everybody would be really strict and I was kind of scared, but then I also -- the first time I saw this office, I’m like oh its small, its relaxed.”
R: “Ya, I mean we’re pretty chill, maybe a little bit too chill but I think -- I mean our philosophy is as long as you’re getting your work done and its high quality great, you know. I mean, I think that's -- in all the jobs that I've had growing up where I was treated really well and given freedom, responsibility, and just it felt like I was supported as a human, I wanted to work twice as hard as I would. So, that was kind of something that I think we kind of really wanted to bring here was -- we’re at work a lot, we’re here eight hours out of our day and just making it a place where you feel comfortable and you actually want to go to, it's not like -- you're not having a case of the Mondays every week. So that's always been super important to me, and just like mindfulness, health and wellness, those are all big things that I would love to obviously bring more of that into the workplace, but everyone has their own thing. We try to subconsciously weave it in but you know.”
S: “Ya, but it’s really nice. I really appreciate it. So now moving onto questions about the organization, there’s just a few. The big one is what should I know about this organization as I work here? That’s pretty broad so…”
R: “Ya um I mean I think really there’s a lot of opportunity to learn. It’s just really about like what you want to learn, you know we do a lot of stuff, obviously what you’ve been working on -- community management side, it’s a lot of like the kind of maintenance and just like figuring out ways to spark commentary and communication. There's shooting photos and content creation which I know you're into, there's paid social, there's copy-writing, there's strategy, there's client communication, you know so there's a lot of different areas that we have going on here. So it's really kind of like what you want to do, and I'm pretty sure -- well I know that myself and Brett are definitely willing to support in any way that we can and everyone else here… I’m pretty sure that they -- whatever you want to learn, they’ll be stoked on that, and I think that's one of the -- another cool thing about this business is that it's so multifaceted, you know it’s not just like -- we don't just do one thing, we do a lot of different things so there's ample opportunity to really learn and kind of see -- get little taste of whatever. I think that’s one thing that obviously being a young person and having not a ton of work experience, it's so hard to know like, okay I'm gonna go to college for this. I mean are you kidding me? If I had to do it again, I probably would've taken a year off or gone to community college, save my parents some money, save myself some stress, and just explore cause you’re so young and you don't even know. it wasn't even until i was like 30 where i was like okay I feel comfortable in my skin and with my knowledge and then it kind of started to build from there. I think just take advantage of the opportunity to test it all out, see what you like and what you don't.”
S: “Sweet. So next, what is the purpose of this organization? We kind of already went over this, but do you guys have a mission statement or...”
R: “Actually, we don't really have a mission statement, you know it's more just like creating strategy and I guess more just helping brands build strong digital marketing presence and using strategy as well as data and really good content to achieve those marketing goals and that ladder up to then the overall business goals, cause at the end of the day you know their business objectives that the marketing goals need to meet, so it all kind of works its way up to the top, but we don’t really have a mission statement, that’s something that…”
S:”Maybe I could help you guys a little bit, work on it a little bit, a little facet of my project.”
R: “That would be sweet.”
S: “I guess the only other question would be what other personality traits or skills or knowledge are important here, and then also just how important is getting along with other people, so I guess just relationships as well as skills.”
R: “I mean, I think relationships is super important, not only in the workplace but externally, managing the relationships with our clients is massive. There's a lot of personalities out there that we have to deal with, and really understanding who these people are, how they respond to certain things, and then also how to communicate -- how do they best communicate. Some of them, they like -- going on Trello, you know you may as well put a book of Chinese in front of them, and then others are amazing on it. Some of them won't get back to you on email, but they'll text back, so it's really just learning it and figuring that out and being comfortable. I mean I think that's the way in life really is how do you adapt to different situations cause you never know what's gonna come at you. I think another key thing is really just being a self starter. Brett and I are pretty hands off in terms of micro management, like I said as long as you're getting stuff done -- we obviously are here for help at any point, and you know you see people coming over and asking us questions, but really just being able to manage your workload on your own is a really big thing for us, we don't want to babysit anyone and we don't wanna tell you what to do. I think there's always a learning curve when you come into something and kind of just figure it out and then a lot of it is just -- at the end of the day, social media is very common sense based. Just using your head, problem solving, thinking about certain things and then I mean we use the analytics data to really drive everything. We can make our best guess judgment and most of the time -- probably 80 percent of the time were probably right, just based on knowledge and experience, but at the end of the day if the numbers are telling you something, then you make your decisions based on that, not just gut feeling. But obviously I think just with knowledge and experience that gut ends up bringing the right answer anyway.”
S: “That’s really cool. Also, I just want to say I appreciate so much that you guys don't hover or parent everybody cause I'm so used to the whole you show up to class, they talk to you for 30 minutes about what you have to do, and then everybody forgets by then what they have to do, and then half of the people -- me included -- are just messing around until the teacher yells at them, and it's just so refreshing to just show up -- and it's also not super strict time, like it's not like if you don't clock in by 9 you're, you know so… It's just a really different environment than school but in a really good way.”
R: “Ya, that's cool, I appreciate that. I mean, its like I said, we're here a lot, we wanna make it cool. If the waves are good, were gonna go surf, if you know, whatever. If you gotta go somewhere, you gotta go somewhere, but as long as that work getting done the, just however it needs to get done.”
S: “For sure. Is there anything else that you want to share, talk about, or advice, opinions?”
R: “No, I mean I think I said everything. Like I said, just make the most of it. You're here for a month and there's a lot of opportunity to just test stuff out and I know obviously that photography is big for you, so Tali has been sick and been out so hopefully there'll be more opportunity for that, but keep nudging her a little bit, be like hey you got anything to shoot? I think i would love to have you do that cause I know that's a goal for you so you might just have to be a little bit annoying at first until she gets you in there.”
S: “Sweet! Alright, well that’s all the questions I have. Thank you!”
R: “Of course.”
Sydney Lorton: “So first off, would you be able to just state your name, your position, and how long you’ve worked at the company or if you founded it.”
Reis Paluso: “Yep, name’s Reis Paluso, co-founder of Social Supply, we’re going on five years old in August so… just co-founder with Brett.”
S: “What should I know about you while having you as a co-worker and boss?”
R: “Well, I have kind of run from the lowest kind of entry level up to where I am now so my experience spans from everything from you know, community management through account management, graphic design, strategy, organization, team building, all that stuff, so I would say I kinda have pretty well rounded knowledge and skill set around marketing social media and I mean, business but I wouldn't -- I’m learning on the fly so… and I think I have just kind of like the full all around knowledge just cause I started at the bottom and done it all, worked my way up. I’m also pretty organized so really big on workflow and productivity and that’s probably it.”
S: “Awesome… also what did you major in college and how did that translate into what you do now?”
R: “My major in college was global studies major with a focus on Latin America. It was nothing that I really can directly correlate to marketing. It was interdisciplinary major, so I could take classes kind of across the board, there was only four global studies courses, which were all required, and then the rest was either taking psychology or I took film classes, I mean just all sorts of stuff so… I don’t know how exactly it directly correlated to my career path cause I’ve ended up going into marketing in a more creative space. So, just mind of getting like a global picture, more looking at like globalization and how the interconnectedness between people -- and I guess now it’s where we’re even more globalized because of the internet and the phones and the social media, its like instant connection. It wasn’t -- I didn’t study marketing or anything…”
S: “That’s kind of cool though. Like you just went into it and you’re like I don’t really…”
R: “I was actually a computer science major and I took two semesters of computer science -- or we ran the quarters so two quarters of computer science and calculus and I was like, it was so gnarly, I can’t even handle it. So then I was gonna be a film major and the film department at my school was very much the theory based, and so I’m like more hands on, I wanted to go film and director and whatever, and so I basically had all these classes from all these different places that kind of fell into allowing me to do this global studies thing, so it was kind of like an indirect, unplanned path.”
S: “Ya, that’s super cool. So what are your main duties and responsibilities in your job right now?”
R: “Right now is like client strategy, marketing strategy for clients, managing the team, a lot of admin work for the business, and I do -- I kind of fill in wherever, you know, caption and copy-writing, graphic design, photography, I kinda just play in all areas. It’s one of the things I’m working out and honing in even more, but ya that's kind of where I'm at now.”
S: “Nice. So why did you choose to found your own business or co-found it? Like what made you make that step cause that’s scary.”
R: “Ya, ya, I never -- honestly never intended to own my own business or be an entrepreneur at all. I actually recall many times saying that I would never want to own my own business and now I have like two and a half, but I was doing social media for about four to five different brands just as freelance, and I had met Brett while working for one of them at reef and then he went to Stance, he brought me with him, I was doing freelance for Stance and we just kinda saw an opportunity, a gap in the market, of like hey people need this service of just basic social media cause the knowledge just wasn’t there. It was kind of starting to filter in, more digital focused, but still not really even, and so we just oh hey let's partner up and we can utilize our networks and do this and really it just happened like so organically. You know Brett was working at Stance still for a while because he had a visa thing for being Australian and then -- so I was kind of running more of the day to day and he was kind of helping bring in clients and helping with strategy and stuff and then just I don't know, it was a really organic process, it wasn't like hey okay I’m gonna go and do this, just like hey here's an opportunity, we should do this together. And his skill set really matched up with mine and so it was just like cool, and you know it’s just been -- it’s crazy like the growth and just super organic, you know we don’t do any marketing for our own business. It’s all been word of mouth which is awesome. I mean that’s the best kind of business to get. So ya, I mean we started out it was just me, and then we hired one girl who was actually an intern at Stance, and we were working out of my garage, and then hired another guy, and we were working out of my garage, and then we eventually got a little office in Cardiff, we were there for a couple years, and then we moved here a couple -- a little over a year ago.”
S: “That’s awesome. So, did you ever have previous jobs before owning your own business that led you towards this or helped develop skills?”
R: “Ya definitely. So I basically taught myself how to write HTML CSS code, a little bit of Javascript, and was doing web development, like freelance -- well more or less freelance -- but not, I worked at a place everyday in Solana Beach, and I was just building websites for some cool brands and people and stuff, and alongside that I was running a surf blog called Corduroy TV, it was like -- it was all do it yourself surfing. So we made videos on how to make your own surf wax, how to fix your board, how to repair your wet suit, like all than sort of stuff, and then we had a blog as well, so I ran the blog for about a little over five years and so that was like a total -- that was like the testing ground for everything I do now. You know, I ran all the social media, but it was right when Facebook was really just getting going and Instagram was barely even a thing, more towards the end of when I was doing it, Instagram came on. So it was just the testing ground. I really just got to -- like I didn’t really have my boss but it was my partner, he was a creative he didn't really know about it, we just kind of were like doing what worked, and it was cool cause it was like when organic reach was really high on Facebook, so you know you post something on Facebook and everyone in your audience would see it so it was like -- we built this really awesome community, we won a bunch of awards and stuff, and that was launching point, and then from there, I have met a couple people who were looking for social media help -- couple brands like Leatherman, the multi tool company through Corduroy, and Brett hired me at Reef through Corduroy, Sirus -- my partner, he's a pro surfer so he surfed for Reef so he knew they were looking for someone, so it just kind of started the process of getting my own clients and then that's obviously where I met Brett and kind of started this from there so… But I've always just been like a total tech nerd and I'm kind one of those people where throw the directions away and figure it out yourself kind of thing. I taught myself Photoshop, taught myself how to write code, taught myself how to edit video, so just that’s just the nature of who I am: start doing it, figure it out.”
S: “Ya for sure. Well, and going off of that do you consider your job and a career in this area satisfying? I mean it sounds like you do, but then can you just explain why too?”
R: “Ya, I mean I think the beauty of like what we do as an agency is that we’re working with a number of brands so it’s not like a single focus, you’re working on one thing all the time which can kind of get, you know, monotonous. It’s like we're coming back and forth and really having to learn these different brands from like business wise to the personality of the brand to obviously then the personalities within the company were working directly with, so it’s cool to have obviously that human interaction amidst the online communication. For me personally, it's like a little bit of a double edged sword too cause I feel like obviously we have all these problems with technology and I have two kids, hey love the iPad and it's like how do you draw that boundary and I feel like a lot of times maybe were contributing to the problem a little bit. It's become obviously a necessary evil for a company to be on social media for marketing and -- so you know it’s like really the work home balance. Work, it’s obviously -- I'm on the phone and doing that stuff a lot on the computer and then when I go home, just being really disciplined to put it down and not tap in, but obviously it hard when you run your own business, you're kind of like constantly on the horn, but I mean it's definitely satisfying, it's awesome to have an awesome crew of people that are passionate about it as well and get to come in and share knowledge and you know try to have -- obviously have a good time and chat and be humans together.”
S: “It’s pretty cool how chill the workplace is too. I thought I was gonna come into it and everybody would be really strict and I was kind of scared, but then I also -- the first time I saw this office, I’m like oh its small, its relaxed.”
R: “Ya, I mean we’re pretty chill, maybe a little bit too chill but I think -- I mean our philosophy is as long as you’re getting your work done and its high quality great, you know. I mean, I think that's -- in all the jobs that I've had growing up where I was treated really well and given freedom, responsibility, and just it felt like I was supported as a human, I wanted to work twice as hard as I would. So, that was kind of something that I think we kind of really wanted to bring here was -- we’re at work a lot, we’re here eight hours out of our day and just making it a place where you feel comfortable and you actually want to go to, it's not like -- you're not having a case of the Mondays every week. So that's always been super important to me, and just like mindfulness, health and wellness, those are all big things that I would love to obviously bring more of that into the workplace, but everyone has their own thing. We try to subconsciously weave it in but you know.”
S: “Ya, but it’s really nice. I really appreciate it. So now moving onto questions about the organization, there’s just a few. The big one is what should I know about this organization as I work here? That’s pretty broad so…”
R: “Ya um I mean I think really there’s a lot of opportunity to learn. It’s just really about like what you want to learn, you know we do a lot of stuff, obviously what you’ve been working on -- community management side, it’s a lot of like the kind of maintenance and just like figuring out ways to spark commentary and communication. There's shooting photos and content creation which I know you're into, there's paid social, there's copy-writing, there's strategy, there's client communication, you know so there's a lot of different areas that we have going on here. So it's really kind of like what you want to do, and I'm pretty sure -- well I know that myself and Brett are definitely willing to support in any way that we can and everyone else here… I’m pretty sure that they -- whatever you want to learn, they’ll be stoked on that, and I think that's one of the -- another cool thing about this business is that it's so multifaceted, you know it’s not just like -- we don't just do one thing, we do a lot of different things so there's ample opportunity to really learn and kind of see -- get little taste of whatever. I think that’s one thing that obviously being a young person and having not a ton of work experience, it's so hard to know like, okay I'm gonna go to college for this. I mean are you kidding me? If I had to do it again, I probably would've taken a year off or gone to community college, save my parents some money, save myself some stress, and just explore cause you’re so young and you don't even know. it wasn't even until i was like 30 where i was like okay I feel comfortable in my skin and with my knowledge and then it kind of started to build from there. I think just take advantage of the opportunity to test it all out, see what you like and what you don't.”
S: “Sweet. So next, what is the purpose of this organization? We kind of already went over this, but do you guys have a mission statement or...”
R: “Actually, we don't really have a mission statement, you know it's more just like creating strategy and I guess more just helping brands build strong digital marketing presence and using strategy as well as data and really good content to achieve those marketing goals and that ladder up to then the overall business goals, cause at the end of the day you know their business objectives that the marketing goals need to meet, so it all kind of works its way up to the top, but we don’t really have a mission statement, that’s something that…”
S:”Maybe I could help you guys a little bit, work on it a little bit, a little facet of my project.”
R: “That would be sweet.”
S: “I guess the only other question would be what other personality traits or skills or knowledge are important here, and then also just how important is getting along with other people, so I guess just relationships as well as skills.”
R: “I mean, I think relationships is super important, not only in the workplace but externally, managing the relationships with our clients is massive. There's a lot of personalities out there that we have to deal with, and really understanding who these people are, how they respond to certain things, and then also how to communicate -- how do they best communicate. Some of them, they like -- going on Trello, you know you may as well put a book of Chinese in front of them, and then others are amazing on it. Some of them won't get back to you on email, but they'll text back, so it's really just learning it and figuring that out and being comfortable. I mean I think that's the way in life really is how do you adapt to different situations cause you never know what's gonna come at you. I think another key thing is really just being a self starter. Brett and I are pretty hands off in terms of micro management, like I said as long as you're getting stuff done -- we obviously are here for help at any point, and you know you see people coming over and asking us questions, but really just being able to manage your workload on your own is a really big thing for us, we don't want to babysit anyone and we don't wanna tell you what to do. I think there's always a learning curve when you come into something and kind of just figure it out and then a lot of it is just -- at the end of the day, social media is very common sense based. Just using your head, problem solving, thinking about certain things and then I mean we use the analytics data to really drive everything. We can make our best guess judgment and most of the time -- probably 80 percent of the time were probably right, just based on knowledge and experience, but at the end of the day if the numbers are telling you something, then you make your decisions based on that, not just gut feeling. But obviously I think just with knowledge and experience that gut ends up bringing the right answer anyway.”
S: “That’s really cool. Also, I just want to say I appreciate so much that you guys don't hover or parent everybody cause I'm so used to the whole you show up to class, they talk to you for 30 minutes about what you have to do, and then everybody forgets by then what they have to do, and then half of the people -- me included -- are just messing around until the teacher yells at them, and it's just so refreshing to just show up -- and it's also not super strict time, like it's not like if you don't clock in by 9 you're, you know so… It's just a really different environment than school but in a really good way.”
R: “Ya, that's cool, I appreciate that. I mean, its like I said, we're here a lot, we wanna make it cool. If the waves are good, were gonna go surf, if you know, whatever. If you gotta go somewhere, you gotta go somewhere, but as long as that work getting done the, just however it needs to get done.”
S: “For sure. Is there anything else that you want to share, talk about, or advice, opinions?”
R: “No, I mean I think I said everything. Like I said, just make the most of it. You're here for a month and there's a lot of opportunity to just test stuff out and I know obviously that photography is big for you, so Tali has been sick and been out so hopefully there'll be more opportunity for that, but keep nudging her a little bit, be like hey you got anything to shoot? I think i would love to have you do that cause I know that's a goal for you so you might just have to be a little bit annoying at first until she gets you in there.”
S: “Sweet! Alright, well that’s all the questions I have. Thank you!”
R: “Of course.”